A congregation learns their theology not only by the preaching they hear but by the songs they sing. This is why we Christians must follow Paul’s example in 1 Corinthians 14:15 when he says, “I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.” Both Jesus and Paul teach Christians that there is a proper way to worship and sing to the Lord; We are to do it in spirit with truth and with understanding. We are not to sing songs to God that we do not understand, because if we do not understand them, how can we determine if they are truthful? In this episode, Dale and Veronica tackle the topic of what today’s culture has identified as “worship music” and how it is teaching false doctrine.

Real Christianity #58: Is Your Worship Music Teaching False Doctrine? by UCDjsrE6l1g7pP99EGmSlyxg

21 COMMENTS

  1. This is a hot topic with me, that the Lord has always made me aware of. Even as a young boy listening to secular music and satanic rock. It is all worldly/devil music unless it is given to the Lord. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a nut. It's something the Spirit taught me long ago. And I've always listened for truth and lies in all music. And how the devil mixes both together for deception…When u talk about Christian artists, remember that they are flawed/flesh just as ministers and other servants are when in the flesh. Their biblical understanding is probably flawed as many others. But I hear alot of good, inspired worship songs..I too hear Christian songs that blend biblical scripture with creative license, that can lead to false understanding and potential teaching of the same. Music is a very powerful tool. But more than that, it has been made by God to have many degrees of influence, both good and bad. I think that it is vital that Christian artists, labels, radio stations and churches understand the difference between pure and correct worship music and artistic creativity. And I'd like to see artists, lyricists and "Christian music labels" create songs that are correct in this regard. Even screened, if you will, by leadership that understands this topic, for approval. And I wanted that before I heard this message. Separated and biblically sound, yes intended. And thanks, good topic.

  2. If you are wondering where to find worship music. Look in Phalms. Its all right there! Todays worship music is used to gain an emotional response. This isn't worship. It is whipping up an emotional state for control. I don't need to be emotional to worship Him. He is The I Am! To be blunt, church music sucks now. They sing "come holy spirit". That's just stupid! They are looking for an emotional high. The Holy Spirit never leaves or forsakes the believer. Good times or bad times He is still our almighty God. People need to get over themselves. We need chastisement. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom! We are His children. We need correction! What is understanding? Look in scripture and ask the Holy Spirit to show you. It's that simple.

  3. You're teaching is very good..However terms such as "stage" can interpret to be "performance".Just remember that every where matters as you how so soundly reminded many and so I gently suggest this word needs to corrected, as well..Maybe a more appropriate word could be..chancel? There are so many words which truly need to be reevaluated in our teachings. But yes the topic you are covering is vitally important to the teachings and the understanding of the Body of God the Church.)

  4. Hello, thank you for the video, just wondering what songs or artist would you recommend listening to? For someone like me who is new to the christian life and wants to learn the true teachings.

  5. Bethel church is a heretical church. There is no debate. Their teachings are so unbiblical and out of context and their practices look like witchcraft. Dont be afraid to call them a heretical church. Truth is truth.

  6. Dale and Veronica, great video/podcast as always. We've (my family and my house church) been supporters of Relearn and actually watch your videos in our own home church every now and then. I do have one difference in opinion (not to get super nit-picky, just giving an opinion) around the first lyric example, the "You didn't want Heaven without us." I'm not sure if Hillsong meant to make it seem like the Trinity was "needing" us or not, so I'm not defending any possible intentions; but if I reflect on the lyrics themselves, I think "what would the opposite of those lyrics be?" (like what you did with Reckless Love) Well, the opposite would be "You WANTED Heaven without us," which obviously isn't true. So if I had to choose between the two camps of thought, I'd go with what Hillsong wrote.

    But I want to emphasize: great video, and I completely agree that misuse of lyrics can (and has) lead us in the wrong direction.

    Thanks for all the work you do!

  7. Y'alllll….. God has been speaking to my family's heart about this and He has led us to leave our current church (which btw has awesome biblical teaching but doesn't have this discernment about the "as important" worship)… THANK YOU! Now for the grueling task of finding a new church home… please pray for us! IN HIS GRIP! <3

  8. Good teaching, sound Biblical teaching that offends the lukewarm.

    God will never say to us: "you took this Christianity thing too seriously", in fact I believe that God is going to say to many that: "you didn't take anything seriously"

    Keep preaching!

  9. You poor ape

    Wake up

    You’re saying you believe in a man floating in the sky

    You ReTaRdS

    When you die you are DEAD

    Not floating in the sky with “god”

    I thought humans were intelligent

    Until they made up gods

    Brainwashing much 🙄🙄🙄

    what im saying is

    WAKE UP YOU CLUELESS COWS

  10. There's a lot here that I have an opinion on… Here goes nothing. 

    This could have been a WAY better discussion if it talked about the possible limitations between music as an expression and its use in understanding or conveying biblical truth. BECAUSE… even hymns have their own problems theologically. From patriotic hymns and their over-emphasis of nationalism to hymns that have a verse with an eschatological view of escapism, there are a lot of songs that could have been included in this discussion. It could have been a lot more powerful of a segment if you really wrestled with that, and then encouraged people to have discernment and to learn how to maybe not throw the baby out with the bathwater… because my guess is that's what you would do when thinking of a hymn with shaky or wrong theology. It was also a little weird (from my eyes) for you to open with a highly contested and argued Scripture like Ezekiel 28's prophesy of the King of Tyre, and then go on a sort of tirade about CLEAR use of Scripture. I'm not saying that this isn't an accurate view to have of Ezekiel 28, but more that it definitely is NOT clear that Ezekiel (or God) is talking about Satan… tradition has bred a lot of that interpretation. The whole idea of "teaching CLEARLY" isn't even one that was followed by Jesus during his earthly ministry. He taught through parables and used stories from things that people could relate to (much like songs do). There were moments where he actually had to stop and pull his disciples aside to explain to them what was immediately clear. So do songs need to be contextualized like parables? Absolutely! So I get the concern, and I totally understand the discussion here. 

    Now let's look at some songs:

    What A Beautiful Name – There's a difference between "want" and "need." God didn't need us in heaven. God though did WANT us there. "God is not WILLING that any should perish…"

    Resurrecting – saying God "robbed the grave" and that he is a "grave robber" are two completely different things. Does this mean that God steals? Maybe he steals hearts! #micdrop hahaha! But it's CLEAR that the intention is that he defeated death. Do we say that it's wrong to say God defeats things now too? "Defeat" maybe means that he beat death fair-and-square versus "robbed" which might sound like it wasn't fair. I could maybe see that. So I get the hesitancy. The question though is a question of semantics – does the average person reading, singing, or hearing this song IN CONTEXT think of this line "literally?" This song has really interested me now, so thank you for that.

    Reckless Love – this has been talked about enough (like EVERYWHERE), but the problem is that there is a disagreement in what "reckless" really means between the two camps. So the song is really about semiotics and not semantics. When we introduced the song at our church, we paired it with the father's action of "running" in the story of the Prodigal Son. You can also see the context of "leaves the 99" in the song helps with that understanding of using Luke 17. There is a CLEAR ploy on Jesus' part of the "lost" stories of Luke 17 that God did the "reckless" thing (depending on how you might understand or interpret that word). The father shamed himself and ran to the son that told him he was better off dead (in an honor culture society). The shepherd left 99 perfectly good and healthy sheep to find 1 that was lost (and the sheep could have been DEAD – also putting 99 other sheep in jeopardy). The woman, instead of cutting her losses, looked up and down the house to find one small, measly coin (that she didn't even know was there). Do those actions seem like they might be foolish or reckless from the perspective of the world? My thought is "yes." And also let this be stated: no where in the song does it say that GOD is Himself reckless.

    Holy Spirit – Saying that praying TO the Spirit isn't in Scripture, when there isn't very CLEAR evidence of people praying TO JESES in Scripture (outside of Stephen's vision when he is being martyred) is a little deceiving. Even the word "maranatha" in Aramaic could mean "Our Lord has come" (maran atha) and not "Come, Lord!" (marana tha). Jesus being "the mediator" could be in the discussion, but really, even examples from Paul and others show that most prayers were addressed to God the Father (thinking Ephesians 3). So the argument is definitely misleading… Though I do agree that the rest of the song about welcoming the Spirit doesn't really make a whole lot of sense theologically. Jesus tore the veil. The Spirit is always available and present. But again, make this an encouragement about welcoming the Spirit into your heart, and now there is a tension between translating the chorus more metaphorically.

  11. I feel like this is a little nit picky. With your first example of “What a beautiful name it is”, I don’t know anyone that looks at the song or that specific lyric that way. Unless of course you are looking to tear it apart and nit pick. The way that I look at it and I think the way it is intended, is that Jesus simply wants us in heaven with Him. The word says that He would have no man perish. He wants everyone to be in heaven. Not because he is lonely and wants to have some company. But because He loves us and wants to spend eternity with us and doesn’t want to see anyone go to hell.

  12. The song is saying “you didn’t WANT heaven without us” not “you didn’t NEED..”
    but there is a different part in the song that implies something wrong: “my sin was great, your love was greater; WHAT CAN SEPARATE US NOW?” this song is implying that sin doesn’t separate us from God when in fact it does if we don’t repent. The song doesn’t mention repenting from sin, it just implies: Gods love covers sin no matter what. Which leads people to believe that they will go to heaven just because God loves them

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